Showing posts with label Education in Singapore. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Education in Singapore. Show all posts

Saturday, September 01, 2007

Racist ,studying in Singapore


Hi Mate !! To be citizen of Australia you have to sit for exam !!!
WTF

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I have just received this email and decided to publish on this blog...

Hi Tao Dee,

We are a group of journalism students from Nanyang Technological University working on our final-year project, a feature focuses on Returning Singaporeans - Singaporeans who have chosen to return from overseas.

Understand from the conversations in this forum that you had tried to settle back in Singapore from Australia but that there were several issues that you faced settling back home. You are now back in Australia again? Am wondering if you're willing to share your story with us?

We believe this is an issue that affects all Singaporeans, even those who haven't left home and how they can help Returning Singaporeans settle back, and we would really be interested in hearing from you.

Please do drop me an e-mail at derrickhozw@wkwsci.org and I'd be more than glad to correspond with you and arrange for phone interview. Will also send you our media kit which explains in greater detail what this project is about.

Hope to hear from you real soon!

Cheers,

Derrick Ho
Student-Reporter,
Wee Kim Wee School of Communication
Nanyang Technological University
E-mail: derrickhozw@wkwsci.org

Mobile: 96753216[/QUOTE]

MY REPLY

Hi Am not sure I can spare the time to talk to you. Whatever you need to know is already posted here including an article that I just posted on EXPATS WANT THE RIGHT SCHOOL, TOO. Cheers !!

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ALL these topic posted can be found here:

http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/forums/index.php?showtopic=1072

http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/forums/index.php?showtopic=588


This article appears in Singapore local news that there is acute shortage of schools in Singapore .


EXPATS WANT THE RIGHT SCHOOL, TOO

ONE high-flying expatriate gave up a lucrative fund-house position - because he could not find his son a place at an international school here.
Some multinational companies are even thinking twice about deploying staff with school-going children to Singapore because of this lack of places, says the chief of an American business grouping here. As the doors here open to foreign talent and expatriate numbers rise, from 798,000 to 875,500 last year, international schools are facing a growing crunch. With waiting lists swelling, Today understands the backlog numbers are as high as 600 and the wait as long as two years.
A check with some of the 40 international schools here revealed they are all at capacity. The Singapore American School, which expanded in 2004 to accommodate 800 more students, is already full, said spokesperson Beth Gribbon. This is also the case at the United World College where there is a waiting list at every grade, with the highest demand at preschool level.
Demand has been so strong at the Global Indian International School (GIIS) that it is looking to expand - for the second time since it opened five years ago. "We are announcing a third campus soon because we are reaching saturation point (in the existing two schools)," said Ms Neetu Mehta, head of communications and overseas admissions.
The expansion will make GIIS the largest international school here, and increase capacity by 1,500. Originally started for overseas Indian children, it is now so popular with other expatriates that its 3,900-strong cohort is a mosaic of 24 nationalities.

The lack of places at international schools here is becoming a "fairly acute" problem, especially in recent months - and is a major concern of American businesses here, said Mr Dom LaVigne, executive director of The American Chamber of Commerce in Singapore (AmCham). According to him, increasing expatriate numbers and lower turnover at schools - due to expatriates staying longer or taking up Permanent Residency - are two big factors contributing to the crunch. It is believed that several schools are working with the Economic Development Board to look at expansion options and cater for growing expatriate numbers. And none too soon.
"Our members are finding Singapore to be a very attractive place to do business, so over the next few years, we're probably going to see several thousand employees coming in from a number of leading companies," said Mr LaVigne.
In May, AmCham set up an international school task force to provide more information to the authorities. According to Mr LaVigne, they are working with American companies and schools here to get a better understanding of the projected demand for and viability of school places.
Meanwhile, the problem has caused some foreigners to turn down job offers, while others have put off relocating here until they find a school, he said. But an Irish expatriate in his 30s opined that the problem would not be so big if parents were not so picky. "It's a personal decision they make … to want their kids to be in a school with a big expat community," he said.
Indeed, some foreigners here prefer to look to local schools instead as a more accessible - and affordable - option for younger children. More American expatriates, particularly those on local packages without the education allowance, are doing so.
Foreigners on employment or professional visit passes can apply to local schools through the Ministry of Education, and their children are allocated places under Phase 3. But some find the system confusing.

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Posted by suds n wicks Feb 6 2007, 12:02 PM

vory Moose, I agree this is a serious situation. And I think Tao Dee hoped to get some help / attention to his problem from here, based on what he said of "BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THERE ANYONE IN YOUR OFFICE FOLLOWING UP ON THE MANY ISSUES RAISED HERE ?? ". Unfortunately, as we have since found out, from what Kai reported to us after meeting with the portal staff, this is only a social forum and so no one is following up on any of the issues raised here. It might have been helpful if we had known that from the start, for at least Tao Dee wouldn't have gotten his hopes up, hoping someone who could help him might have read this.

Posted by Ivory Moose Feb 6 2007, 09:28 AM

I read this post just today. I hope the matter has been settled. It sounds very serious. If Tao Dee's family has been living overseas for 8 years and the boys are around 13 years old, it means they were never educated in Singapore (since grade 1). Taking them out of their school in Australia is itself a very drastic act. As an educator, I'm certain they will suffer culture shock in Singapore if placed in a local school. Tao Dee submitted the application on Dec 17th and went to the MOE on Jan 7. Not much time for the MOE to process the application especially during the holiday season. However, I'm shocked the Officer did not want to see the parents. He could have met them to explain the process, calm the parents. with some assurance that the case is receiving attention. The MOE is very efficient, I'm certain of this, hence I'm very surprised at the officer's refusal to meet Tao Dee.

Posted by Fire Bird Jan 17 2007, 07:24 AM
quote name='tao dee' date='Jan 7 2007, 11:00 PM' post='7190']

Don't give up, there are some 200 over Singaporean studying in Singapore American School alone.

For those with valid reason, MOE might allow them to enrol in int'l school. In fact, MM lee also had a grandson enrolled in SAS. The boy had an IQ of 140, but he was having trouble because the boy was dyslexic and he had problem to learn two languages - English and Chinese.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060412/5/singapore202660.html

http://www.sas.edu.sg/about/nationalityprofile.html

Posted by Kung Lone

since like we choose to understand or have not been educated. press will print outdated news or news not related to us or news that we cannot change. no news is good news. rememeber a reporter reported nkf. end up kana sue. lucky sph support him. so who dare to voice up. cos the editor might have to take up certain responsibility when print any article. there is always pro and con. is the same. china will not see how terrible is china situation. cos it will stir the crowd. who fund or monitor mda and sph.....


Posted by suds n wicks

Oh...too bad it did not get printed in the ST forum as that would have had way more readership than here. I think they select letters based on how widespread the problem is, and since not every 3rd S'porean is having this problem, I guess they didn't feel it worthy of printing. Sigh.

Overall you are not going to have a problem with S'pore's policies if you weren't gone for an extended period. Maybe this is why nothing had been done about it as the number of S'poreans returning from overseas after being gone for several years isn't a significant percent of the population. I agree it is sad, for I wonder how many of those overseas chose to stay overseas because they encountered problems going back?

QUOTE(Amy Kiesgen @ Jan 9 2007, 02:54 AM) *

It is sad that such things happen in modern Singapore. I just hope that the government makes an effort to try to solve this particular problem.


Thank you OverseaSingaporean for the comments posted in response to my problem !

Here are my response ......

I FULLY AGREED !!

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if you directly confront them. they will choose to avoid. cos there always proper channel. and proper channel waste time......

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Yes THE SINGAPORE FORUM did received a copy of this article on the same day that I decided to publish my feedback here. BUT they choose not to publish !! Who own the SINGAPORE Media ?? Media=Government Government=Media ! Complete waste of time ....

Globalise this Singapore PAINFUL Joke

SOME ONE EMAIL ME THIS TO-DAY !!! HE TOO WAS SEEKING APPROVAL............ read on please !

TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE

(Agni Kootthu (Theatre of Fire) )

The Media Development Authority of Singapore's (MDA) censorship of the arts has become an unbearable joke today.

5 August 2006

The Media Development Authority of Singapore's (MDA) censorship of the arts has become an unbearable joke today.

We applied for a public entertainment licence for the play SMEGMA, written and directed by Elangovan (bilingual poet-playwright- director) a month ago to the MDA for censorship vetting.

I called the MDA on Tue 1 Aug afternoon at about after 2pm to find out about the licence.

We made our first unsuccessful attempt in 2006 .

He sat for an entrance exam and without a second language my son application was unsuccessful.

Thus we packed and returned to Australia.

My son , age 13 would need to post a NATIONAL SERVICE SECURITY BOND if he want to continue studying aboard . This is absurd ...... when enlistsment starts at age 18. thus we are back this trip and hopefully we can settled their education.

I do not understand why we still need to seek MOE approval for overseas Singaporean when we have been away for eight years. We are not "local Singaporean" seeking approval to study an International School then approval might be required . The delay is mind blogging . As mentioned we are NOT against placing them in local government school but his fear of unable to cope will land us in greater trouble.

International school placement is an obvious choice for Singaporean been away from Singapore for some 8 years based on the following MOE Mission Statement . Give them time to make necessary adjustment and excel according to their ability !

quote below MOE Mission Statement ..

THE BASIS FOR SURVIVAL & SUCCESS

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People are our most precious resource. Every citizen is valuable and has a unique contribution to make. Through education every individual can realise his full potential, use his talents and abilities to benefit his community and nation, and lead a full and satisfying life.

Every child must be encouraged to progress through the education system as far as his ability allows. Advancement must always depend on performance and merit to ensure equal opportunity for all.

Every child should be taught at a pace he can cope with. Each should be stimulated to excel according to his individual aptitudes. The system must be flexible, to cope with pupils who mature mentally, physically, emotionally and socially at different rates.

Every child must learn to take pride in his work, to do his best and excel in whatever he does, and to value and respect honest work.

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Where is the “pillar of Social support” Dear Mr. Tharman Shanmugaratnam –Education Minister?

Where is the ongoing measure to ensure all Singaporeans prosper in the globalized world?

Where is the role in helping the needy, regardless of race or religion?

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Oh are they still having this rule? I remember this rule was in place when I was going to school (more than 20 years ago). I remember about it because some people tried to transfer to an international school (e.g. they had returned from overseas, were attending a government school, and couldn't cope with the second language) and could not. I guess the rationale is that these schools are intended for foreigners and they don't want a bunch of S'poreans attending there and filling up all the spaces, so they have this rule.

Would you still have returned to S'pore, if you had known about this rule beforehand? Anyway I hope you can find some suitable arrangements for your boys' schooling.

In the Sunday times, January 8, 2007 there was an article “Make Foreigner Feel Welcome” Mr.Wong Kan Seng ,who is the Minister of Home Affair (Singapore) said “many of us have ancestors from countries like Malaya, Indonesia, India and China .They were foreigners in the land years ago, but decided to sink roots here . This is how they become Singaporeans.” “In order to make Singapore-an attractive destination for migrants, we must make them feel welcome, help them to integrate into the community and sink roots in Singapore.” Mr. Wong also stressed that the Government will “continue to look after the Singaporean first.”

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Well said Mr.Wong Kan Seng , but I feel that the government is not looking after the Singaporean first here .
We are Singaporean residing in Australia . Arrived in our homeland on 10 Dec 2006 with a second and FINAL attempt of settling my two boys education in their homeland. Our first priority was to seek a school for them and to help them to integrate into the local Educational systems gradually .We choose an International School not because of our dislike of Government schools. Our fear is they will need time to adjust to local systems and environment and this will minimum disruption and possible dropout from school etc.

In order not to waste too much of our precious time in Singapore , we found an International School on 13Dec 2006. We enrolled them to start a new term on 3rd Jan 2007. But was told we need to seek approval from Ministry of Education. Application was submitted on 14 December 2006. To our disappointment, we heard noting as of JAN 07 2007 ! In a desperate attempt, we marched into Ministry of Education office with the sole purpose of finding out what is holding back our application. To add to our insult, The person in charge of Pupil placement refused to see us. The conduct of the officer is therefore questionable . Is he that ELITE that he is unable to spare a few minutes of his time explaining to us what is holding back our application. We are no beggars. This is our home we want to feel wanted and welcome in our homeland.
I would expect the personnel at Ministry of Education are held to higher standard of professionalism and ethical responsibility than most because they are trained to lead the children – the future of Singapore .The Ministry of Education governing body has a duty to itself and the public to preserve the public confidence and uphold the professions standing .The public has a reasonable expectation of accountability.
Mr. L just refused to entertain us thus gave us an unfortunate impression it was giving excuses for them. Talking to my friends and colleagues later about my encounter with a Mr.L. I asked them what they would have done. It is just sad that is falling short of the exemplary role expected of him.
The answers I received were-variety of answers, It is quite hard to put forward my complaint to higher authority?? Many though that I had done the right thing. But I won’t forget the dilemmas I faced of getting the approval for my sons to study in an International School.
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong spoke of the need to reach out to the Singaporean Diaspora in his National Day speech last year. To promote this it has even setup an Overseas Unit in the Prime Minister’s office. I quote “Let’s help them get to-gether ,” he said.
YES, PM LEE A BIG THANK YOU !! THIS OVERSEAS UNIT IS AN EXCELLENT ATTEMPT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION .

BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THERE ANYONE IN YOUR OFFICE FOLLOWING UP ON THE MANY ISSUES RAISED HERE ??

Singapore is our Home, where we want to make our contributions.

Where the support from the well said speech of Mr Wong Kan Seng that the Government will “continue to look after the Singaporean first.”?

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Posted this morning in OVERSEASINGAPOREAN
The Topic can found here :-

http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/forums/index.php?showtopic=1009

RACISM IN AUSTRALIA

I do think there is some presence of racism in Australia

I was in Melbourne a couple of yrs back and was riding in a friend's car on my way to the airport. I was sitting in the back on the extreme left, day dreaming when the car came to a screeching halt. Next thing I knew was my friend, the driver swore a string of vulgarities and a small tree flew past me. It all happened within split seconds! It was a freak accident because the delivery van in front of us on the left lane (we were in the lane on its' right) somehow got caught in low hanging electrical wires and as the driver traveled pretty fast, the van dragged the wire that somehow pulled the tree up....??? The driver was a young caucasian man and he was sobbing when he got out of the car.

To cut the story short, the eyewitnesses (caucasians) told the police it was our fault as our car swerved into that delivery boy's lane. If not for the pictures that proved my friend's innocence, she would have lost the case. Some Asians, not all, would drive dangerously on the roads just to show off their vehicles. This would definitely incur wrath among the locals unfortunately.

There will always be racism, if not sexism, ageism etc bcos us humans like to feel superior over another person. I've heard many uncalled-for comments e.g. my ex Australian boss, a china chinese by the way, defended her act of not turning her indicator lights when driving in S'pore is because she is just driving like us Singaporean!! or another instance when she said she needs to teach us English so that the Ozzies can understand us dry.gif or another time when an Australian colleague who said, in a not-so-friendly-and-I'm-not-sensitive kind of tone, that there are too few anglo-saxons children in the Aus schools bcos they are dominated by Asians who are always studying and not have a life

*Sigh
Thanks your response .

Of cos . "most" Australians are racist there are no doubt about it.

It is quite pointless to call the police .The police will never side Asian !! I was fetching my son from school and three "drunk" Australian bump onto my car .I got off the car and the three men instead of apologizing for ramming the back of my car threatening to bash me up .Where the justice??? I did called the police but no action was taken. Any where else in the world if you rammed into the rear of someone's car it is the rear car fault. I just got to bite the bullet and drive off.

when you drive a car with an 8 . Be prepared to face the middle finger Syndrome and frequent horning etc.. when you did noting wrong on the road. ######ing Kangaroos they think they owned Australia . People in the community just cannot accept that Australia is a MULTICULTURAL society and the migrants (like me) are here to contribute to Australia's economy .

Please read this article which appears in Manninghm weekly written by a Singapore Doctor residing in Melbourne.

Recently while I was walking out of Balwyn library, heading in the opposition direction to an elderly woman of Caucasian appearance, I stopped about a metre away from her, stretching my neck to see if there was a female toilet outside the library. She came up and said: "excuse me, don't walk into me, there is another passage on that side." I replied: "sorry, I was not going to walk into you, I have stopped." To that she interrupted: "look, I am sick and tired of you CHINESE ....." Regardless of her previous experiences with other races, if at that age she was still angry and intolerant of a multicultural society, I feel sorry for her. She will probably carry the hatred to her grave, leaving an example to her children and grandchildren. Both my husband and myself are in the medical profession-we have paid taxes in the highest brackets for years. We have contributed more to Australia than we have taken from it. If the woman is a pensioner ,we might even be contributing to her aged pension. Therefore , to be on the receiving end of such remarks is totally disheartening and hurtful > UNQOTE.